Episode 52: Prepper Successes & Failures - How did last year go?

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spk_0:   0:00
Hello, everybody. Goodbye, everybody. This is Spice.

spk_1:   0:04
This is salty and its year in time, it's time to reflect its time to look back, the successes we've had and the fails that we've had. And mostly we're gonna look at the fails. We're going to talk about a couple of successes we had to. It's always good. Thio, go back and take a look at what you are doing and recognize your mistakes, and you're if not mistakes, then your failure is to complete failures. To start. It's important, have overall goals, and then you have to follow through with them. And sometimes I don't do a very good shot of that. Sometimes she doesn't do a very good job. And I gotta admit, sometimes you don't, do we? Oh, it's called being a human may yet, so we're gonna take a look at some of our successes and some armor failures. So you want to start, We Let's let's start fails. Everybody loves fails Anyway, You get to make fun of us because we blew some stuff we did. We let yeah, we've lived, so

spk_0:   1:09
I had a goal at the beginning of the year. Two. Complete a guttering and rain barrel project for the place. And I frankly just kept finding excuses to avoid that and put my efforts somewhere else because it's it doesn't play to my strengths. I'm not somebody who's good at that sort of thing. I've had to learn a whole bunch of new skills, and I just let it intimidate me and turned my efforts elsewhere so that project still needs doing

spk_1:   1:38
well. To be fair, we could hire it done. But you know, then that's the finding. The contractor making sure it gets done being sure the place is open because we keep it like, you know, the the gate and stuff is locked. So we kind of have to open that up for the person, make sure they're doing what we want to do, and frankly, it's not that big of a job. So it's kind of good. We just got the cabin right now. That's kind of a hard sell,

spk_0:   2:04
not a whole lot of people around, really. Anyway,

spk_1:   2:07
with that smaller project, we've been looking around for handy men in the area. T maybe do a few these Miki Naki things that, like this that require it requires some of ladders and getting up on ladders. And I don't do ladders. It's not that I'm afraid. I'm just really clumsy.

spk_0:   2:26
I don't mind getting up on ladders, but it also involves drilling holes in the middle of our building. And that is what intimidated me

spk_1:   2:34
right now. To be fair, Where the gutters are going is there's no way you can cause a leak because Eve's hang out quite a ways. But still you're drilling holes in a in your structure.

spk_0:   2:46
No fixing that If I do it wrong,

spk_1:   2:48
it'll be there. I was also planning on running wiring throughout the the cabin, and I didn't get that done and again. Part of that is just I've never done this before. Wiring is new house, especially when the walls are still open. Like this is no big deal, the wiring part. But the drilling holes through the through. You know, you got this nice, perfect good two by four, and it just drilling a hole through it is just it's intimidating for somebody who just doesn't do that. I know you homey Home Depot freaks out there. You you met guards, people you know are just laughing your butts off at us, but we just don't do this. It's just not what we

spk_0:   3:29
do. If it was living tissue, I do it because I've gotten over my intimidation of that sort of work. If it was about the same kind of resistance when I first started doing that sort of work,

spk_1:   3:40
it was electron ICS. I have that thing completely disassembled down to the components. Are you getting out sauntering guns? I don't care that that's what I do. I know that stuff. If it was a a camera man, I'd strip that thing down and c L A. The whole shutter mechanism. No problem, but drilling holes and would. He's just something I don't to so

spk_0:   4:05
so blooding yourself be scared away by projects because you have to learn a bunch of new stuffs to tackle the project. That was the core fail that I saw here.

spk_1:   4:17
Right now. I want to I want to learn how to do carpenter woodworking. That was one of my goals was to start in on that, and you know, we need to get some of the basic tools. We have tools, but not really enough to do true carpentry type work You know what I'm talking about? Stuff like making work benches, making very simple crude level carpentry stuff, making water, barrel bases time. And I want to learn how to do you know, it's it's stupid, but I've just never done any of this. I want to have to do, um, basic minor concrete work to get a reading level. I just never have done it, you know, even talking quikrete stuff. I'm not talking about bringing and poor. I didn't get it done. That was on the list, and it did not get done. It didn't get started. Didn't come anywhere near close to it. So that was that was a failure.

spk_0:   5:27
On the other hand, I did tackle a different project to which I also had no skills and had to learn basically from scratch, how to do it and organize it and get people in to help me and things like that, which was the Prairie Restoration project.

spk_1:   5:44
And we're gonna come back to that during the successes. We're living through the fields first, right? Okay. What's what's next on our list?

spk_0:   5:55
Have you had one on

spk_1:   5:57
fitness fail? I am not. I had a goal to be more fit than I am now. Um, I do go to the gym. Okay? I ride my bicycle every day. When the weather's decent, I go to the gym. So it's not like I'm not doing anything, but my weight is higher than I wanted to be. And my conditioning is not is not where I wanted to be. I was hoping to be in better shape at the end of the year than I am now. Here's what's going on. I had meniscus surgery in my knee last November. This is not an excuse. I'm just telling you that this was a problem. I was. I do too long story short. It was nothing to do with the health part of why I couldn't get it done. It was an insurance matter. Um, and it was The worst part was it was paperwork. It wasn't. It was just annoying. I had my surgery canceled multiple times because of paperwork, and we're talking six months. I hobbled around with the Tor meniscus, so finally got it done. So really, Jill, Through through March, I was in full on recovery mode and then, you know, march turns to April, April turns to May, and pretty soon it's December. I was rather limited in what I could do this year in some ways, but not in others. So I'm not. You're going. It's not an excuse, and I'm recognizing it is not where I wanted to be. So I've said a couple of new goals for next year. Yeah, I'm not going to those on the show because they're a little more specific than I want. I really care to get into on the show, but their goals and we're gonna see if we can get him knocked out. I have done that. I've knocked out goals before. You're talking to somebody who had a goal of 7500 miles on a bicycle in here and I beat it like a drum and we're talking in Missouri, where it's unripe double 4 to 5 months a year. We're going so that was a pretty good year. But that's been a lot of years ago. I've been a long time ago. The years get away from me. If you don't watch it. We're just going through our diving stuff and I was looking at my certification levels and you know, it's been a long time. It's been a long time. There's something about the show that makes her coffee. She doesn't call any other time, but she put on a mic phone. She's got a copper head off. I don't know what that is. Okay, What else you got on your list? What else do I have on my list?

spk_0:   8:42
I need another few seconds here. The next one I had we actually did and earlier podcast on it because it was definitely a proper fail. The core problem was situation's changed in our life. Specifically, we sold one car and bought another car, and we didn't keep up with the props we already had in place. It was a failure to maintain, Perhaps when life situation changed.

spk_1:   9:09
Bottom line is we had to call Triple A and get a jump, and we were out. And we have the place. We're in the middle of nowhere. And it took him a long time to find somebody were where we were and get somebody out test for offer. Just a stupid We didn't have any other vehicles or a stupid dead battery. Because in the new car I did not know you have to fully pull the key out of the ignition or we'll keep everything running. I did not know that. I know that now. The hard way. Yeah, that was one of those what does deals?

spk_0:   9:45
And we normally have a jump set in the car, but would pulled it out of the old car when it was time to clean out the old car and it hadn't made it into the new car by the time we needed

spk_1:   9:57
it. Interestingly, we we went ahead and afterwards did a check of our jump sets. And we found out that were used the lithium ones, the little package, lithium, multi charger things. They work great. But we wait, We checked, and we did check to make sure that they were all in good condition. Hers had failed. The one in her car was no longer functional. It gave an error. So it got field he ho, and we've, uh we got a new one. So that's good. So that was not a fail. That was a success because we checked the true fail wasn't that we didn't have the thing. The truth. Phyllis, we didn't make sure we got it in the car.

spk_0:   10:44
Yeah, so we took care of it when we urgently bought the sets and had the idea, but we didn't keep up with it when life situations changed, right? So we have once upon a time it's been years now because I learned that trick. I had the same problem with medication. There was a medication change and I didn't get all the new medications into the emergency bags. So had to do ah without for a couple days while we're on a trip

spk_1:   11:17
and we touched on seeing another proper fail we had was doing something stupid and putting my life at risk. And any time that you do something stupid and careless and you put your life at risk, that is a prepper fail because part of being prepper is being alive. No, I got myself into a situation where I was not paying any attention, went all to what it was eating, and I hold one's assault. I did not know I was actually eating salt. I didn't think it waas okay, The potato chips I knew had salt,

spk_0:   11:58
but not nearly as much as some of the other stuff where it was more hidden

spk_1:   12:02
and I just didn't know it was something that it wasn't really. I say it's stupid, but it was ignorant, not stupid. I was ignorant of what was going on, and

spk_0:   12:15
there was a little little bit of not attending to things that you don't want to attend to going on there because it sometime in the past, I may have mentioned too salty that cottage cheese was Ah, hi. Sold item. But I kind of didn't want to hear it.

spk_1:   12:38
Well, and frankly, I had no idea that cheese curds were like, ridiculously salting. I just didn't know that. And you know where we are now? I do. Now, I know the cheese curds are ridiculous, especially the way they the people make them there, which

spk_0:   12:56
is a process called salting Out.

spk_1:   12:59
Good to know if you're gonna sit down and eat a whole bag of cheese curds. Don't. Okay, if you're hypertensive sensitive, like me from salt sensitive, don't do that. Say where that put me in the emergency room. We'll talk more about that in an episode about salt, so but that's something that you know, something to pay attention to because it was bad. Okay, um another prepper fail that I have all right, didn't follow through on getting rid of some of the stuff that we need to get rid of, to clear up space for having for space. We just need some space and weak. That's way too much stuff in our lives that could go away. And I know that she knows that. But we didn't get it done. We didn't get it. We didn't get executed on the getting rid of a lot of the stop. We got rid of some of the stuff, a little bit of the stuff, but not nearly as much.

spk_0:   14:00
We have a hard time with the balance of there. Are is a small subset of situations in which this could still be useful, yes, but it's not a big enough subset of situations to make it worth the storage space

spk_1:   14:14
right and where I'm gonna keeper and she's

spk_0:   14:19
not going to throw away stuff that he's not ready to throw away because it's not worth the unhappiness

spk_1:   14:26
right? But we have stuff. I mean, honestly, if you've got stuff you haven't used in 5 to 10 years, you don't need it. I don't need it unless it's really, truly prep. If we're talking about a bucket of 25 to 30 year storage food, not I want to use it. It's gonna be in the basement's gonna put away. That's not what I'm talking about. I'm talking about stuff that, you know, you just don't need it. Don't need it. So, you know, we're gonna I've got a bunch of scuba gear I'm going to go through one of these days just simply because we've changed our style so much that, uh, we're gonna sell off a lot of that. The older stuff that we're just not going to use like that wing I didn't like, I'm just getting rid of it. Nothing wrong with the wing. I just does not fit what I'm trying to do. And it's too big for her.

spk_0:   15:17
The fact that it's good stuff and you don't want to throw it away doesn't mean you need to keep it

spk_1:   15:22
right. But you could find a good home for it.

spk_0:   15:24
Yeah, and I suspect a lot of preppers kind of have the same kind of problem because, you know, we see a lot more situations in which we might need something that we don't currently need

spk_1:   15:34
I Also, I have to really watch myself upset. Fell. Please get that. It's pulling my head sideways again. Thank you. It really hurts when it does that too. Um, I have a really bad habit up. It's such a great screaming deal that I'm like, Okay, I really don't need this right now, but it's such a great scream and deal that I know we're gonna use it sometimes I'll buy it. We had that today. I stopped. I'm a camera collector. Okay? This is actually a collector, and I'm looking for some specific things. Not because I pass on most of the ones I find because they're not what I'm looking for. So I we stop it. A lot of goodwill shops Low Provocation Day. And I just went ahead and stopped the goat both stop. And I saw a rally for fashion a ll aluminum bike with really good Richie wheels on it. And I know that sounds like an oxymoron to your cycles, but these are actually bridge. He does make a few good wheels. And also the folder ace 10 speed full day raise. Okay, You're talking about a little bike really

spk_0:   16:55
good parts to the not con cyclist. There

spk_1:   16:58
I am. We're talking about fully kitted out for three and 1/2. It's in her size,

spk_0:   17:09
which not everybody Sickle is

spk_1:   17:11
right. And I'm like, Ah, man, that's just a screaming deal And well, there you go. It was a screaming deal, but we didn't mind.

spk_0:   17:24
It wouldn't fit in the car. And he's like, I can make room in the car. I'm like, Well, no, not really.

spk_1:   17:29
But if we were at home, I there's a good chance

spk_0:   17:32
I'd buy that bicycle. Well, that would be a different issue.

spk_1:   17:35
Yeah, well, Kiss carrying halfway across the country is a different issue. And if we happen to come through Mariana on the way Hey, all the way home, we don't have to fight with it all week, But really, it was literally ah, screaming deal. But that's the kind of thing that gets me in trouble. And we're actually we're driving. We're just driving around Northern Florida going places we haven't been before because America and we're gonna pause here and she's gonna go out. Look at the damn overlook where a woodruff damn overlook, which this doesn't really seem like that. Uh, What's what? I'm looking for Dramatic of a dam, But we're gonna go take a look and we'll be right back, back, and we're back. And the dam was really

spk_0:   18:29
much lower than Missouri. Damn

spk_1:   18:31
interesting. Not really. Actually, you know, there's there's really hip served my audiobook kicking on in battle for two miles, listening to Gettysburg, Newt Gingrich and William forced her on the audio book. So are we running?

spk_0:   18:58
We're running.

spk_1:   18:59
Okay, so yeah. Uh, this isn't exactly or ability talking. About 900 feet of currents were also not talking about emitted danger of collapse over the O. If you wanna see something, wanna watch a really, really good channel. I love watching the guy, Um, the Blunk alert Blanka Lereah channel. I don't know why he calls, but Raul forget his last name. Really fun watching the Oroville Dam. So this one's got a spillway here. You can see this lake. Whichever, like this is I have no idea is actually whipping up enough waves that it's splashing over the top of the spillway. So this is But this bill weighs, like, obviously a better designer than the aura of a one piece. It's like not collapsing in stuff. So that's a plus, right? This is Jim Woodruff it Damn, but, oh, yeah, it's an interesting sport way. Um, I think it would. It broke my window down and take a picture of it off my phone. And maybe maybe we'll put this on. It are picture for this episode because hopefully this is never going to be a prepper. Fail.

spk_0:   20:30
That's something you can count on. Salty to never have a proper fail on his accidentally Living blew a damn.

spk_1:   20:36
Yes, that one's not going to happen. I've told the story before, but it's true I have. Everybody's got their rational fears and their irrational fears. My irrational fear is to be swept away in a dam flood. I'm sure at some point in time, if if reincarnation Israel, which we don't really talk about because that would be a religious type thing. But let's pretend for a moment that it is. I'm sure at some point in time I was swept away in a flood in

spk_0:   21:03
a

spk_1:   21:03
previous life because I am apparently and I'm not a person. It's afraid of water. Heck, I dive in freshwater rivers in the underground. We were in one yesterday. We were underground in the river and it was talking to us. We were hearing would had to say True. This one wasn't running all that hard. She had to listen close. But if you lose you, I probably very few of you have ever dove in came bottom. Here's my one die guy. Always digression. Here's my digression. The river has, ah, harmonic to it that is almost a cz much felt as heard. It's a It's a rumble, but it's a rumble that goes right through you. It's partially subsonic, and you can feel not even hear it. But you can not Only here, but you can feel the subsonic, vibrational, elemental, epic feeling of power, The power of the river, the power off, the spring, the water. You know, some people might get all wax all philosophical. I'm not going to do that. I'm just gonna say it is a very powerful force. It's like, you know, listening, hearing that quote unquote sound of freedom when you hear a takeoff full military power. It's the same sort of feeling that you get, or I have never actually been to Cape Canaveral when one of the big Rocket is taking off. But they say that's the same sort of thing. You know, when the space shuttle would take off and the thunder hit you, it was an elemental power of the looked at.

spk_0:   22:53
It feels to me like floating in the bloodstream of the planet. But that's me. You accidentally philosophical about it?

spk_1:   22:58
Yeah, she's going west full, so I'm not in the West philosophical about it. I'm just It is cool, but it's something that that I love when I'm in a mess tin it. But it's also something that I do not actually encourage people to fight out because it's seeding Lee dangerous to do if you're not trained in its something that you just really need a want to dio to get the kind of training that's necessary. So

spk_0:   23:30
on the other hand, on the other hand, we were talking about prepping fails, and this one's kind of on me, because frankly I am I am not a lot. I have learned to use a whole lot of new kinds of equipment technology in the course of my life, but it is not something that comes naturally to me. It's not my natural bend. Yes, so I've learned a whole bunch. I'm gonna learn a whole bunch more, but it's not because it's just easy and natural. So I have to practice with both things mechanical fairly regularly. If I've only tear down a gun, learn to take that model, tear it down, clean it, put it back together. Some people would remember that for 10 years. 20 years. I won't I have to look that model again within two or three years, or I'll forget how to do that model. So keeping in practice on skills I have developed is an area for improvement. It's not like I've totally failed on it, but I haven't done as much of it as would be for the best.

spk_1:   24:45
Now, this is one thing that that, uh, I'll just throw out there. We have done a Siris on this, but one of the considerations that I think everybody should really pay attention to this kind of aside it would. Buying firearms is how easy they are to field trip and how easy they are to clean, because if you're going to buy a gun that is a pain in the tail toe field strip and clean. You're not going to shoot it nearly as often. So I'm just throwing that out there. You could, you know, that's just a side. But we do have, actually, they have. Ah! Ah. Complete article on this and check it out. Is the Florida State Hospital were in the town with the Florida State House? I don't know what time or even an but it has. The Florida Department of Children and family. My family is come for that. Children. Yeah. Green light. So there it is. There's the Florida State. We've seen the Florida State Hospital. At least one of them.

spk_0:   25:52
And a rather hard to understand billboard that says smoking kills crayons. Okay, you got me. That was just our in Chattahoochee. Okay, What? The billboard said we're way down

spk_1:   26:07
yonder in Chattahoochee. So there we are. We're in Chattahoochee, and we're gonna turn this thing sideways here pretty soon because we're almost in Georgia. Yeah, there we are.

spk_0:   26:21
Okay. So keep in practice. On your skills is something I need to work out in the coming year.

spk_1:   26:27
I want to go. We've got a couple of wins. Well, you better wins.

spk_0:   26:32
I learned a whole lot about keeping the place in better condition as a living ecosystem that will support survival of people and everything else we want to have living there. A

spk_1:   26:49
lot of people, a lot of preppers, a lot of preppers make the same fail. And that fail is they do not see the need. Two pay a lot of attention. Two, the environment. Do you think that's Yeah, we get it gets into politics and we don't do politics here. Okay, We're not going to talk about environment as a political thing we're going to talk about. Hey, if you need to live in

spk_0:   27:24
those woods for any reason, maybe might wanna have him healthy enough to live in

spk_1:   27:28
just saying if you want, you wanna If you think you're gonna have to hunt for wildlife, you need to build the woods up so that there's plenty of wildlife in it. So if you

spk_0:   27:40
do need to hunt in them,

spk_1:   27:42
they will do it. That's what we're doing. We're putting in. We're restoring. I, uh, short grass prairie. Um, it's actually a combination short dress. Tallgrass prairie, where it's the native prairie. It's what it actually came from we're

spk_0:   27:59
letting go all back towards

spk_1:   28:00
right. We're going to be thinning out our trees to encourage wildlife population. That's the whole idea. Behind it is to encourage, while white population and diversity of wildlife,

spk_0:   28:11
it'll be a better would source. It'll be a better placed hunt deer, although it's already already a good place to hunt deer, it would go down Hill if we didn't continue to maintain it right. It'll be a better place. Tom Turkey And should we need to collect things for a lot of the herbal medicines and things like that, or things that grow wild. And you've got to maintain the health of the woods in the prairie if you want to have a wide variety of different things. We've got several different medicinal plants that grow wild in that prairie.

spk_1:   28:42
But we started and are sheeted. Give her. I didn't do it, she did. We started autumn all of eradication program out there because it's an invasive plant, although it's one that you can eat so you know it's invasive and you don't want it. But you can live with this plan to get a lot of mileage around. We don't need

spk_0:   29:04
if I were going to get Autumn Olive. It's, you know, 1/4 mile down the road. There's whole stands of it that nobody wants her needs. But it would take over the entire prairie area and then start take over the woods area if we let it. So I'm not letting it on my spot.

spk_1:   29:20
So the autumn Allah has to go. If you're ever considered planting autumn Olive in places that is not native, do not do it.

spk_0:   29:28
Yeah, I actually read that. I should do that in some of the proper places. But I read further and they're like, act No. We planted this because we thought it would be good. And then it was good. But then there was more. And then there was Maur. And then there was more, and you can't get rid of it. You cut it down and it grows back. And all

spk_1:   29:44
you have is audible live.

spk_0:   29:46
Yeah. Diversity is the key to good, useful plant life. Unless you're trying to raise a row crop of corn, what you want is diversity and plans like autumn Olive kill diversity.

spk_1:   30:03
So that was that was that was a success that we did have a lot of success out of the place we we wanted to. We wanted to restore this prairie area and part of that waas removing a whole bunch of stuff that didn't need to be there, including a whole bunch of cedar trees that have reached a pretty darn good size and was going to spice. It started removing in my hand. And, you know, pulling taking now two or three of these trees is a day's work by hand hand.

spk_0:   30:36
We mean hand tools because even was working during the day. And I don't run chain saws when I'm by myself, because that would be a proper fail. Yeah, I knew

spk_1:   30:47
we'd be getting into Georgia produce it were your exact in Georgia. That's all right. We're gonna go up this road for just a bit. Turn back. We're just exploring. We're going to places. We This is what we often do on vacation, especially. I like rainy days. It's the home of Maggie Bridges one of these years, Maggie Bridges. But this is where she's problem. She's from Face Phil, which I don't know. So

spk_0:   31:11
we got rid of the cedar trees. We checked on the health of the pond and did a little improvement of cover in the pond, put in some more perennial trees and improved the orchard a little bit. Made more plantings of fines, both to serve as a barrier for people who want to trust pass and to get Berries from in very season. So we did some good things there.

spk_1:   31:39
Yeah, we did.

spk_0:   31:40
We had some organizational fails. That's the other fail we wanted to talk about. Okay, go ahead. Where we had new, we had bought some stuff. Actually, it was some stuff we had bought out of sequence because we we do have a plan of what is most necessary. But some of those previously mentioned screaming deals came up and we got some stuff early because we knew we'd never be able to get a nearly so reasonable place again. And then it just got stuffed somewhere and we couldn't find it where we wanted it. I don't even remember which particular item I'm talking about at the moment. But you were asking about and well, we bought it. It's here somewhere. Here somewhere is kind of the bane of my life

spk_1:   32:30
are, or even worse, I put it right there, and it's not there anymore because I put everything in the same spot spot would give, you know that's 90 feet. I put it on my spot. That's where I put it. She moves it. I don't know where she moved it. Trouble is, it wasn't even enough to approach of, ah, item for her to register What it even wise, unless it's really, really weird.

spk_0:   32:55
Now, some of the stuff I don't even know what it is. So

spk_1:   33:00
So, yeah, organization isn't organization says definitely have a

spk_0:   33:06
home for it before you get it and put it in that home when you get it, so you can find it when you need it. We have improved along that line this past year because as we sorted stuff, we put them away in Nicer are more reasonable areas, and we got better labels on our ammo cans, so stuff enamel cans we could find that was a big project. We did that.

spk_1:   33:28
That was a big project and our

spk_0:   33:31
tools when you're useful.

spk_1:   33:32
But tools are much better organized now. There were our bicycle parts are much better organized, and they were, um so yeah, that's good. So We made some progress, but we're not nearly where we need to go, and it's good for more successes. I had one more success I wanted to talk about, and it was a success in not doing something I bought. I believe one gun in 2017. Pretty sure I only bought one.

spk_0:   34:08
You did good

spk_1:   34:10
and it was a gun that I wanted for a specific reason. And it was one of the two ways that could have gone with this gonna. Briefly, it was a 4 10 shotgun, but it's a 14 shotgun that I bought in, uh, the configuration of a home defense shotgun. He's got a short barrel and it's ah, very small, very lightweight support. 10. Obviously, it's a pump. Um, it's a, uh you know, Remington Pop. It's not. This isn't too fancy of a thing is gonna carbon stock car polymer stock on it, But the thing is, she is five foot four and I don't know if you all have ever shot a riot gun, which is what we have for him. One of our home defense guns to 12 gauge multiple. Um, adjustable stock is just brutal. The shoot that come. I mean, it is brutal for somebody who's £115.5 foot four with home defense loads, it's just it's a It's a load in any shotgun, any shotgun inside of a room that's less than 20 by 20 which all of our rooms, our house or less than 2020 any shotgun of any caliber loaded with any shell is gonna be devastating, period. And people who say, Oh, well, we'll really be used effectively. They have not shotguns. I'm sorry. You just that's that is an Internet guy sort of argument.

spk_0:   36:15
Nobody wants to be in front of any of them. So

spk_1:   36:18
far, I've got double aught buck loaded in a 4 10 which is not really the load I would use. But if I did, or I had one of these home defense loads, which are really actually pretty cool. A lot of people use them in in the judge, he and guns, but coming out of a 12 gauge or out of a pump there. Yeah, they're pretty mean. And also these these These are also grounds that are not gonna go through the wall and kill my neighbors. So that's where the reasons this gun is much smaller. It's much lighter way. It's much shorter, has much more controllable recoil. So it's not a one's a single shot. I also eventually would like to get one of the old I had when I sold it like an idiot. That old 20 to 4 10 for hunting will yield Savage over. Understood. They have the prices on those things have gotten really big kid. Lis, I haven't seen a ah used old blue coming on a mint.

spk_0:   37:24
$600?

spk_1:   37:28
No, thank you. And the new ones are just not as good. Frankly, they're junk to mention it to you, savage. But you had a really good gun at one point in time. These new ones you're putting out with polymer stocks are young. I would know what All right, anyway, so there we are.

spk_0:   37:47
So buying the gun you needed and not all the guns you'd like so we can get the resources to things we actually need more.

spk_1:   37:56
Right? Image on the ammunition side of it. I just bought enough to replace what we're shooting

spk_0:   38:00
because we have enough

spk_1:   38:01
that we have enough for Lasts a lifetime. Literally. The lifetime of the person's coming in or out. You don't want to be that person you're really. Now, I'm just saying I'm just I'm just saying, you know, I should plug implant. You'll be going to the garden. You'll be out there. We sent with Carbo Spot.

spk_0:   38:28
How about you just don't try and break into my house? That's a much better idea.

spk_1:   38:34
Okay, I think we're gonna wrap this.

spk_0:   38:36
Okay, uh, make your own list, guys. Learn from what didn't go well, Congratulate yourself on what you did. Do well and figure out how to keep that going. Good time years, Any to stop reflecting set new directions.

spk_1:   38:57
We're not gonna We're not gonna go out about resolutions because those are kind of giving. Really. And we're both regular gym goers and it gets really annoying after the first of the year with all the way in February. So it's a battle night. Say their own on for about six weeks. It becomes really impossible to get any any of the thing down at the gym because of all the resolution years. And then they go away. And the rest of us the regulars we get, we do our thing anyway, Director later. But