Episode 242: Milsurp

Salty & Spice talk about military surplus.

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spk_0:   0:04
Okay, This is gonna be a little weird, because it

spk_1:   0:08
got a little weird

spk_0:   0:09
because he got I got so far off topic in a podcast we were doing about ammunition that Well, you're gonna hear a lot of that podcast because I'm gonna actually cut that podcast in in progress at the point where I really went off the rails and I'll let you listen to that

spk_1:   0:26
We're building a new set of rails for

spk_0:   0:28
you were building new center rails because perfectly

spk_1:   0:31
information, but not where we started it all.

spk_0:   0:35
You know, it had nothing to do with where we started. So what, you're gonna what we're gonna talk about in this podcast, which I know what we're gonna talk about Because I recorded 95% of it already is we're gonna talk about military arms, surplus arms. Are they a good choice? A reasonable choice. And let's talk about for a modern a prepper. Let's talk about you know what they are what they are designed to do what they are not designed to do,

spk_1:   1:04
and the strengths and weaknesses

spk_0:   1:06
and strengthen we've had how they compare with other options. Well, I'm not gonna go very much into the other options. But say, for example, take one particular one. Particular guy. Sorry. One particular gun that's near and dear to my heart. The Russian Mostyn rifle, commonly called motion again, but kind of in error, called most again so the most. And rifle. We're gonna look at that as an example of Is this a gun than a late 2000 teens? Prepper should be including in his. Perhaps 10 years ago, you would have gotten a different answer from me because the situation we

spk_1:   1:44
were buying up all these.

spk_0:   1:45
Yeah, but the situation has changed, and we have to We have to recognize the change. So we're gonna talk about that. We're gonna talk about surplus ammunition. We're gonna talk about surplus guns, give you examples of some of the guns that are out there, talk about the strength and weaknesses and why surplus guns are available on what's going on with him. And there's the surplus. Market is not nearly what it used to be for a very different The government doesn't like people buying firearms, for one thing. And the U. S. Government used to sell a lot of em. One grand's out of its own surplus market. And of course, that stride up because basically, they've sold all of them. There's that. So the surplus market isn't what it used to be. But those of us who love old military guns, we have to sit back and look and take stock of where we are and put realistic values on what we own. And so we're gonna talk about all that in this podcast. I hope you enjoy it. We're gonna cut right into the other podcast already in progress.

spk_1:   2:50
Here it goes under your rails.

spk_0:   2:55
Three away, its military surplus. It is Brodin prime, which means it's very difficult for people to reload, which means I'm not keeping the brass. Okay, that's good and mad because, you know, I like to have brasserie load, but on the other hand, make sure you get all the brass picks as opposed to shooting and shooting at the gun range with a sweep it up and toss it can and it gets recycled. But long story short, this surplus is older. They'll probably be some misfires in it because that's just over. Accuracy is probably not going to be. That's what we're not gonna be the most accurate world is Mil Spec Ammo from 40 years ago? 50 years ago? I mean, it's but on the other hand, if it's been kept dry, this stuff has apparently been kept dry, has good ratings. If it's been kept dry, it lasts pretty much indefinitely. I've got a lot. I bought a lot and I've got a lot of 7.62 by 54 are most in m o. I've got a lot of that. I mean, I don't think it's an exaggeration to say a lot. I have more than you do, and I don't know how much you have. And I've never had a single misfire on that stuff and I was just shooting. The stuff I've been shooting is corrosive old, and it comes from the Cape from Yugoslavia. The stuff I've been shooting

spk_1:   4:44
10 Boy, was it dirt cheap. That's why we have so much.

spk_0:   4:46
But we did not get it at dirt cheap to be clear. Third cheap is the name of a of a distributor which I do not use.

spk_1:   4:57
Oh yes, they're the shop I knew of by that name. Sold alcohol and cigarettes and I'm pretty sure that ammo would be a very bad mixture with that?

spk_0:   5:07
Yeah, dirt cheap after Sandy Hook, Dirt cheap, which is not line distributor. They did some things that I do not approve of, and I sound like I bought a lot of stuff there anyway. But I will never buy anything again from dirt cheap. They will not ever be. We don't have sponsors, but even if we did, they would not be a sponsor of our show because I want nothing to do with them. They did some very, very not to my liking practices right after that. And I think they lost a lot of customers over to. I'm not the only person, so yeah, it's not nothing to do with Dirty the ammo itself. I like to buy surplus ammo for blazing away ammo. I like to buy it for several reasons. First of all, it was once military spec, even though it was Malaysian is still NATO's back and because it was made by a NATO spec company and I like that I like military spec because it's made very reliable and I like military spec ammo. It also is much better weather sealed. He's got. The ceilings are around. Where the bullet goes into the casing in the casing is sealed around the primer. And so it has to be a lot more weather sealed. It lasts a long time. The Yugoslavian stuff. I haven't like 70 years old, and it shoots just fine. The 7.6 to the military surplus market is very limited these days as faras the ammunition of the guns. Thea there for a while, you used to be able to get dirt sheep. I'll use your expression very cheap. Most of ammo. I was buying it for $150. A case shipped. That's 880 rounds. So it's very, very, very expensive in those that come in a really cool wooden case. And inside of that, there be to spam cans of ammo 440 rounds. Each stuff is corrosive, which means you have to clean out your gun good after you shoot it. But you got to shoot it for 20 cents around and blast away at it all day long. Very high, powered around, good, high quality around. I don't think I ever have single misfire with the stuff that circle and a lot of the stuff was coming in from Yugoslavia, and then it went away. And then a lot of the stuff was coming in from the Ukraine and why? I mean, a lot of the ammunition was Ukrainian. It was a former Russian or Soviet military ammunition. And then the Ukraine kind of got the war. And so the stops selling surplus ammunition just boom overnight because the war started and they kind of way better not get rid of ammunition. Look, you know, we may

spk_1:   8:14
need Save it for your next Civil War. That's what it's for. Absolutely. Let's steal a line from a song.

spk_0:   8:20
My Life for the song What excellent album Sabotage Dead Winter Dead Great album. If you like rock n roll music, it's about the Yugoslavian Civil War. Yeah, it's kind of weird. Concept was really good. In fact, if you listen to the album and I highly recommend you do you will, you will listen to a song on that album and it will. You will fall over backwards in shock if you don't know that that song was actually done for the album Dead Winter Dead by the rock band Sabotage You will fall over backwards listening to your own know you've heard this song 1000 times and you had no idea that it was actually done

spk_1:   9:02
or could possibly have come off an album called Dead Winter Dead About the Yugoslavian War

spk_0:   9:08
should be totally says,

spk_1:   9:09
Yeah, it's Christmas in Sarajevo is the song

spk_0:   9:12
because this is serious. If you look at this is a song that was put on the first Trans Siberian orchestra because newsflash, Trans Siberian orchestra sabotage saint people. It was put on the first Trans Siberian Orchestra Christmas album, and you have heard it 1000 times. And you had no idea that it was actually done by the band's sabotage on the album Dead Winner. So if you like that song, do you need a video? You know, if you like that song of the rocket roll version of Bump Up Upon Papa. Papa, Papa, you know Carol Bells, stuff like that, the new like sabotage. Whether you do it or not, that's what they sound like.

spk_1:   9:56
But every time I hear that Christmas song, I'm thinking of that really sad and tragic civil

spk_0:   10:01
war. Oh, it was It was sad and tragic. Civil war. It was a sad they all are. Yeah, and it was a sad and tragic album. And it certainly isn't a digression because that's what that's where military surplus comes from. It is not used. It's available for for wars that were never fought, which is good. I use it to plank. I do not use military surplus as myself. Defense ammo? Absolutely not. For one thing, it's full metal jacket. It is full metal jacket because the NATO we're not the NATO are the Geneva Convention. Even convention requires signatures to only use full metal jacket ammunition. You can't use fragmenting ammunition.

spk_1:   10:51
Yeah, you can kill him. But you have to kill him with Queen ammo.

spk_0:   10:55
That's something so not signature. But it pretty much all militaries use full metal jacket or solid core, frankly, for what I use it for other than plinking. If I were gonna use it in a prepping situation, I'm gonna be using it for either self defense for hunting

spk_1:   11:22
and through it, it's really intended to be a big game gun. Your gun?

spk_0:   11:26
Yeah, I threw away. It's a big gun and it'll punch a hole through, but it's illegal to shoot big game in the state I live in with a solid jack with a full metal jacket or solid core round.

spk_1:   11:41
They don't want you just send the bullet right through it

spk_0:   11:43
right. They want you to kill the animal, not just wound the animal. That's the thing about the two to the TT three around. That's one of the things that made it such a controversial round. The 308 round is designed to kill people. The 2 23 1 round is designed to wound people that was their biggest. The biggest want of that round is why it's used so much that's designed to wound people. Because if you wound a person, you take more than that person out of the fight because somebody's got to care for the wounded. Yeah, I know it's kind of twisted way looking at it, but that is one of the reasons that they switch over to 23 that it's much, much lighter, much easier to carry.

spk_1:   12:22
And if you make it a principle not to care for your wounded, then it makes the remaining soldiers very cranky, rightfully so. And

spk_0:   12:29
additionally, I mean, the 308 round has a huge recoil compared to the 2 23 And Spice had never really been around 308 because something we don't release we have stocked before and we're not gonna buy deep because I've just got the one gun be and 600 rounds does not count as a deep by Thea. I gave her the gun because we have a rule when a gun comes in the house. Unless it's the same gun as we already own. For example, if I bought an exact duplicate clock 17 or 19 as a spare gun,

spk_1:   13:11
pretty sure I know how to

spk_0:   13:12
work. She doesn't work. So when we get a new gun that comes in the house we have the first thing we do is we have a, um, safety talk so that everybody both of us know exactly how to operate the gun. Both of us know how to load it. We know. Unload it. We know how to check to make sure that it is not loaded lest up. So just letting you know when she picked up this 308 it was just like, uh, nah, she had her previous self defense car beans were enforced to 23 in Force Air 15. And that's fine. You know, that's that's not a problem. But she picks up this trio. Eight. It's the same configuration as

spk_1:   14:04
the one who never elect very well.

spk_0:   14:05
Well, yes, that's true. You didn't go? Nah, the second you picked it up, either. She picked up the three way because of the weight of the size of the gun. It was just immediately not

spk_1:   14:16
I'll have to shoot it stabilized.

spk_0:   14:17
Oh, for years. And she does not like to shoot stabilize. She does not like to shoot off of entrance. She doesn't like to shoot off.

spk_1:   14:23
I like shooting that way, but I don't like to have to depend on shooting that way. I don't trust that there's going to be arrested there when I actually need to shoot something.

spk_0:   14:33
You actually never trained for arrest.

spk_1:   14:39
That's why I don't He's right. But that's why don't

spk_0:   14:43
Okay, I'm gonna take a quick break. You won't know sitting. We'll be right back. Sorry about that little, uh, eruption that you didn't even notice. We had to stop and get some gas for the car. So the gas station came upon me faster than I thought it was going to. So, yes, Anyhoo, back to military surplus ammo. We're gonna talk a little bit more about other non surplus. And because the surplus Apple's getting hard to find, Well, Midway USA has some 308 for a very, very reasonable price. So I wouldn't picked up a couple of ammo boxes for now, a lot of preppers usable boxes for all kinds of stuff that we have a really good article by paranoid prepper on our website about what you could do with something uses for used Apple. Can't we use that? We use a lot of used apple cans. We generally put like ammo in them, but it's really cool when you open up a fresh can. Obama. I mean, you get the actual can of ammo that's designed for, like, this is for 30 caliber ball. Example. Cans are designed for 30 caliber ball, so when you open it up, it looks like they're packed perfectly. There's cardboard out inside, and then you got the get the boxes of 40 rounds inside and they're all nice and sealed up. They'll ask for maybe not forever that way, but the last for a very long, long time. That way

spk_1:   16:10
you're nice. Deep breath of air from 1939. Not much.

spk_0:   16:15
Let's be fair. These are 1939. But

spk_1:   16:19
Senator, most enamel probably miss some of the most. Enamel was

spk_0:   16:23
Well, Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's where that is really interesting. You get out, the the company can opener the most on ammo does. What's technically not most now is some 0.62 by 30 by 54 which fits in a motion. But it's also could be used for, like, all the other guns that shoot that ammo, which like machine guns and other stuff. But what you do is you get the get the spam can and you get the spam can opener, which is little, uh, steel bar. It comes with the case and you start opening up like that with the little opener thing, and he goes, And if you lean over, you can smell 19 sixties or 19 seventies kami air its communist air.

spk_1:   17:17
This little red vapor seeps out and yeah,

spk_0:   17:20
yeah, I mean, it's it's every time I open one of these cans. I always do it with the recording of the Soviet national anthem on. By the way, that's a kicking anthem, absolutely kicking Anthem. My Dad, Grecian. So you. I liked how when the Soviet Union went away and the Russian Federation came forward and then they had their The Russian Federation had a different anthem, but it stunk. Nobody liked it. Everybody. Well, I mean, it's a kick in the Soviet anthem is a kick in tune. It really is. It's a catchy

spk_1:   18:00
some heart to it. It

spk_0:   18:01
does. Oh, Bo bom bah ba blam makes me wanna dance studio, which is great. This will be a little bit that the answer they picked up us. So what they did was everything in Russia agreed with me. So they rewrote the words to call a Soviet nonsense out and put in new modern Russian words and brought the song back. So now if the Olympics or where we hear that got the proper and for the Russia actually being played, because when the Russian hockey team is out there and they're getting their awards, that's happened much lately, since the Canadians and Americans have been doing better. But the Russians are out there, they're getting their awards and they have the right song because we have to have nationalist nationalist propaganda going during every sport.

spk_1:   19:05
Yeah, that's important stuff.

spk_0:   19:07
Okay? Never mind somewhere, always boarding into politics. We

spk_1:   19:11
kind of stay away from that.

spk_0:   19:12
But anyway, yeah, I will say I'm opposed to Soviet politics. Not surprisingly, neither spice or I have ever been cold, comrade. They're not communists. We'll go that for we will talk about our political views. But we will say that neither one of us have ever been a card carrying Communist. Pretty safe to say.

spk_1:   19:39
And since I have cards of some type on my person most of the time that you know, that means I'm not

spk_0:   19:44
a but they did have a kicking talk and I like their ammunition. I like the old motions. Even little. Not really. My gosh. Did you see that gun of the store today? We stopped. We stopped at a our favorite local gun shop along the way. And they have a consignment for just a 53 busy Mohsen musicals of the armory. Not the tool army, which is easier to pronounce easier. Prowse. This was a non hacks, so it's a newer one. Non. Heck, said Post. Yeah. I mean, I'm sorry, I I'm thinking it was a 38. Is he not a 53? It was a 38 easy. I was there was a Polish one, too. But it was the 53 and yeah, I could see Polish ones are more expensive because that rare this was a 38 prewar Izzy decent looking gun. But it was one of these Ukrainian armory re Ferb jobs, so there's nothing special about it. As far as I could see, the numbers match, but I didn't go all through the gun. Three was a 3 79 $379 for a 38 Izzy in decent shape. Ah, let me translate for you. Do not buy this gun. I am a motion fanatic. I love the guns, their quirks and all the court here the better. Right? But do not spend $379 on a motion period. Unless the one exception. I'll give you that exception. Unless it's a mint condition finish Mostyn, I mean meant then go ahead and spend it because later finish. You know, the Finnish ones were a whole different level of of workmanship. There were much, much, much better guns, much smoother, much better made. So the Finnish ones, yeah, maybe maybe spent that if it's meant. But this was just a standard rack grade Mohsen for $379. The first motions I bought were $69 we're getting back to We're getting back to the topic. I had no idea. I knew that when I was, I bought a bunch of motions to just put away was still there. Still, actually in cosmology. I never even but I got a deal on a bunch of them, all of them hex heads, all of them in good condition or better. None of the re arsenal just repacked, and I paid $100 a piece for And it has not been that long ago. I got him for 100 each and these air legs that hex has four or five of them are Tulloch's, which is the better of the two arsenals, or at least the more desire to the two arsenals. And they've not been re arsenal, which means they haven't gone back there. And I had all the I hate to think what one of those things that sell for 455 $100. Now,

spk_1:   23:09
I don't hate to think about that since we own them.

spk_0:   23:11
Yeah, but that's crazy.

spk_1:   23:15
Yeah, they're not that great.

spk_0:   23:16
They're not that great. They're not that great. There's a thing about military surplus. Military surplus is fine when it's cheap. That's the fun part about military surplus. It's fine when it's cheap. When I bought this stuff for dirt cheap, so I'm using this. What about the stuff Really cheap. I did not buy it from dirt cheap. I think they sell those. But when I bought the stuff, I bought it because I thought it was a good value. And even though they were, I don't know how many millions 30 million motions made. There were not 30 million motions imported into this country. And when they cut off the imports from Russia and because of the Yugoslav of the Ukrainian civil war and unrest in the Ukrainian stop shipping stuff, the whole thing just dried up. And that was the last of the big military surplus is in the eighties, we had the S K s is coming in military surplus, and you could get, um, you could get all kinds of different Chinese. Korean, uh, India Pakistani military surplus ammunition. Almost all of it was corrosive. So you had to clean the clean, the guns up. Good. But you could get a case of 7.60 by 39 an S K s for 100 bucks. The gun and the case of ammunition back in the 88 89 was a great deal them now, not so much military guns are designed for military uses. Okay, As though it sounds ridiculous. All the military guns were designed for old billitteri. And the truth is that most of the guns that fight a war were designed to fight the previous war, not the war they're fighting. There are exceptions. But the World War Two, for example, the air Osaka Japanese rifle bolt action, Big lawn, huge long gun. All right. The British, the 30 threes. Great gun. But a lot of those guys went to war with a big, long, huge three or three is not the car beans which came around later in the war. More and more. The Russians, even though they redid the original Mohsen in 1930 and basically cut off a few inches are those whatever Russian counting system they use, I believe in 30 they were using Soviets were using millimeters, so they cut off several millimeters centimeters. It's a gun. They cut them down and then from then on, rebuilt him. They re changed the sites over in 1930 changed the sites over from that weird Russian measurement that used before that nobody knew what it waas two meters. Okay, but still, they were big, long, heavy guns that were centered around their bayonets. And while a bayonet charge was a really thing in the 18 hundreds, it was a really think in World War two. It was not so much

spk_1:   27:07
because machine guns

spk_0:   27:09
they had the Russians had a lot and I mean a lot. Leningrad, Stalingrad. I could go on and on and on about all these, um, city in city fighting situations going on and the most. It's a horrible choice for that because big, it's long. They had the M 39 which is the car being version, but it didn't have a bayonet on it. It was it was a prototype type thing that they were working on, and then they started building some of them because they needed something that was much better for to use route tanks to use its cities, things like that. But it it didn't have bayonet. And the Russians are. They're all about their bay. That's I mean, bayonets are a big deal with Russians. It's part of their doctrine and train. So they stayed with the 44 they developed. The M 44 surprisingly, is named ever, and that gun was the most in shortened down to a car being length with a integrated bayonet that could be flipped out a much better designed for, you know, the march into Berlin is they made millions of. But that gun still was a sim. It was, Ah, bold action gun, a World War I era type gun. The motion, um, actual basic heart of the gun was designed in 18 90. So there's a 60 years later. They're modifying that gun, and it's been through how many wars since then. Okay, so when you're buying military military's fight, the last war, they very rarely fight the next war

spk_1:   29:03
and then a surplus out pretty much almost the one before that,

spk_0:   29:06
right? So what we're buying the Russians replaced. See motions, at least in part with the S K s. Now they didn't go as big into the S. K s is. A lot of people did, because they also had the Kalashnikov AK 47. So they went ahead and built out ta k 47 in their inventory, and they like all good Russians before them. They took all their motions and did they get rid of them? Know they put them into big, huge storage facilities out on the tundra. They boxed them up. They oil them up, they re arsenal. Did they put him away for when we needed to fight the next German invasion? So guns were put away, Lots of them were put away all over the place. A K 40 sevens switched over the A K 74. The A K 47 was a response to the fact that they needed that World War two. The Germans came out with the first true assault rifle in World War Two, and it was devastating. The Russians had submachine guns that they used in city fighting, and they were very good, cheaply made pieces of junk, but they didn't work. Whereas wth e um, Americans were the only ones that had done something different. The Americans had developed a gun for the war. They were fighting and they had a huge advantage. The M one. Durant gave him a huge advantage because it had a clip. I believe six rounds maybe agree. I've never owned agreeance. I don't know this off something that I'm sorry I should You stick the clip and I believe it's six rounds just pops in the sixth round of three away and you shoot bang, bang, bang, bang, bang bang. When the last round is fired, the clip is empty. It ejects the clip. You grab the next clip and you put it in as almost a CE fast. Not quite, but almost as fast as a magazine. And the Americans use that pretty much throughout World War two, and it made a huge difference. We were ableto have a much higher rate of fire than the enemy because they're still using 18 98 Mauser Sze Now what's happened is all these Mauser Sze were emulated all over the world, So there's Turkish Mauser Sze. There's Yugoslavian Mauser Sze and there's you Name it, Everybody's made. Mauser is, except for the USA. I think Mauser smiles as ever, and these guns are on the surplus market. Now, this is what is on the surplus market and at a point in time where they're really cheap, This is good. But now that they're more expensive, they're more for collector. And when you can't buy cheap ammunition for them, I mean, a seven millimeter, eight moment or miles or ammunition is just not because they both is just not cheaply available anymore. So she's looking me like, What's your point?

spk_1:   32:28
We got pretty far off the main topic of ammunition here because I wanted to talk about Mil spec it guns. Okay,

spk_0:   32:41
so here's what I'm gonna we're gonna down the road, we're gonna do another top podcast on ammunition, and I'm gonna go back and hit a starting place on this, and I really I actually just record a new intro. Do they got way of Carly off track? This is good stuff, right?

spk_1:   33:03
It's interesting to those who like military weapons,

spk_0:   33:06
which is not you. This isn't gonna shake your head like where you're going with us. okay, So anyway, getting back to the topic with hand, which is, Yeah, military surplus weapons and and ammunition. Is it a legitimate bye in today's market? Which is the new topic that's happened? Yeah, No. And here's why. As much as I love them, ammunition can't be if you can find a good deal on it or decent deal. But the guns themselves no, their design to do something that we're not doing. If you want. For some reason to have a gun for self defense and you want that gun to be semiautomatic, get by a semi automatic modern gun by something. It's easy to put optic on by something as easy to get parts for by something that's modern. Frankly, I mean, no, if you wanna have a bunch of old military surplus stuff just to play with and have fun with which I do, that's great. Back in the day when it was dirt cheap, Perry's dirty begin. But back in the day when it was cheap, it made a lot of sense for preppers, tohave and but not anymore.

spk_1:   34:48
But they did have their problems, like some of the ones we got from jungle areas would. Paul had nasty, cracked bad stocks,

spk_0:   34:57
right, and we had a I bought. A

spk_1:   34:59
requirement had not been kind to them.

spk_0:   35:00
I bought a bunch of Type 50 three's Chinese Type 53 switches the motion, but it is a, uh, it's basically the Chinese version of the M 44 with the fold out bayonets. The metal on them are fine. I no problem with any of the metal on any of them. But the wood. The Chinese use a different kind of wood. It's just scars. Horribly,

spk_1:   35:29
the soft, splintery kind,

spk_0:   35:30
soft splintering cut. But it does have one big advantage over the Russian style would. It doesn't right. You can get it wet and you could get a wet and you get a wet and it does not rot in jungle temperatures. That's why they use it. They don't use it because they don't have other kinds of woods that use it. Because for the environment there using it in, it's the best choice. This is North America. It is not the best choice here,

spk_1:   36:07
especially since it what it does dry out. It tends to splinter and crack, so we had a bunch of stocks to replace also on the ones that were made during the war. You can judge about at what phase of the war. A lot of the weapons were manufactured because they get less and less finished, smooth as you go through. And that makes me suspicious that quality control was slipping. Frankly,

spk_0:   36:34
yeah, what kind of motion, though it really doesn't matter that much, as faras safety owes, because those guns are just they're so over engineered on the safety. I mean, you could shoot a much higher pressure round out of that gun, and it would not explode. Having said that, the bolts don't work as well. They stick more. They're not nearly a smooth. The fit and finish is just not nearly as good.

spk_1:   37:03
I find that some of the cranky late war motions I have trouble working the bolts on.

spk_0:   37:10
Yeah, you can actually almost have to have a hammer on some of them, which is kind of endearing if you are a maniac like me.

spk_1:   37:17
And if you're a big strong man full of adrenaline. But if you're £120 woman at the range, it's not very endearing.

spk_0:   37:25
If it's good enough for Zilly sites up. It's good enough for

spk_1:   37:28
you. I have seen pictures of her. She was not £120.

spk_0:   37:36
That's That's the That's the girl. Yes, you're talking about Vasily. Sites up,

spk_1:   37:41
Vasily. All right.

spk_0:   37:42
You're talking about that girl I was showing you the other day.

spk_1:   37:44
He cheats. He has testosterone.

spk_0:   37:46
Yes. Although she the Russians female sniper core. Wow, to kill numbers. A puppet, just phenomenal verified kills. So anyway, hope you enjoyed the podcast and we'll talk to you next time.