Beans, Bullets, Bandages & You

Episode 147: Where There Is No Doctor

Salty & Spice Season 2 Episode 147
Salty and Spice discuss the critically acclaimed and important prepping resource, the book "Where There Is No Doctor: Go to Beans, Bullets, Bandages & You by clicking HERE!

spk_1:   0:00
Hello, everybody.

spk_0:   0:01
Hello, everybody. And welcome to the show The big show. The most important and critically acclaimed. But guess that is recorded in our car. And today we're in the red studio and supposed White studio. Where the black studio. That's right. We have three different studios. The Waits video is, in fact, an old farm truck. So it's the noisy studio is compared to these, which are at least not quite as high as we. Welcome to the show. We're here to talk to you today about what isn't here. You know what isn't here? We're in the middle of nowhere, by the way, we're traveling as always. And, um, you know what isn't here?

spk_1:   0:37
There's no doctors here.

spk_0:   0:39
There are no doctors. You go where the middle don't wear. I am not a physician on,

spk_1:   0:42
and I'm not giving you medical advice. I'm

spk_0:   0:44
just reporting things in this car. There are no doctors. Sometimes we are. We're their doctors. We are where there are medical people, many of our friends or medical people.

spk_1:   0:55
I often go to my both some of my most dangerous places with my very own physician, right beside me.

spk_0:   1:01
No, I mean, we were gonna do something dangerous. We're taking Dr.

spk_1:   1:07
She doesn't cave dot So there's that.

spk_0:   1:11
There's doctors. Dog is flooding the team doctor of of a team she is a member of is worked for. How? My gosh, she's been in the medical industry for however many years, 75 years. Hey, was, uh, mashed guy in Vietnam? He was

spk_1:   1:31
101st Airborne surgeon.

spk_0:   1:34
Yeah, let's not get too specific, but yes. Okay. We'll go no further than that. Yeah. Um, but anyway, yeah, he was a surgeon. And, um, but, you know, when he doctors thesis a port kept full contact sport. Um, it's funny because he's like, you know, I have put back more shoulders back into joint in the last three years, but I did the previous 40. So, you know, Europe, you You go hard, you play hard. But sometimes you know when you need medical help, it's not there for whatever reason. You may be out in the middle of the hinterlands. It may be in a stuff. It's a scent of stuff. Hits the fan situation. You may be cut off by floodwater. They may be over. The medical service is may be available, Just overwhelmed.

spk_1:   2:28
Or there's a whole bunch of infectious people there

spk_0:   2:31
or there's a hope Very yet you don't want to go to a hospital and catch the pandemic bug going around because the least healthy place in the world for you it's a hospital or a nursing home hospital. Even Maur actually,

spk_1:   2:44
when they're in the middle of an epidemic,

spk_0:   2:48
So what are we gonna do? Well, we're gonna We're gonna We're not doctors, but we're going to do what preppers do. We're gonna start looking at what re sources are available so that we can take care of ourselves and one of the primary sources that we have available to us and every prepper can afford to O. It's not a prepper on this continent who can't afford to own a copy of this resource. Because if

spk_1:   3:22
they own any electronic devices because they can read it off, Yeah, give it to you for free because they want it to be well known. So salty. You are not a medical professional guy in any sense,

spk_0:   3:34
Any sense, No.

spk_1:   3:36
So suppose it's me that's hurt or sick, and you need to figure out how to take care of me. What kind of information do you need?

spk_0:   3:47
Uh, how hurt sick are you?

spk_1:   3:50
I'm not able to communicate with you. You're on your own.

spk_0:   3:58
Well, you look about five foot four.

spk_1:   4:00
Oh, no, He's going right to the for the whole sides. Yeah, Goto. That's harsh. Dude, Try a try. At least

spk_0:   4:11
e scream for help. But if there is nobody else, maybe I do need to know a little bit of something. Yeah, maybe I do. But I know exactly if we're at home, I know exactly what to do, which is Grab the book. Well, we have lots of books, but grab one book in particular where there is no doctor.

spk_1:   4:36
Uh, yeah. Village Health Handbook, I think is the rest of the title. But it definitely starts out where there is no doctor. Yeah, Village Healthcare Handbook.

spk_0:   4:46
Right. It is designed. This book was written not for us here in the first roll country, because we do actually have access to emergency medical help.

spk_1:   4:58
It is, however, useful for all of us.

spk_0:   5:00
Absolutely.

spk_1:   5:01
Whether we're preppers or not, this is a useful book, a bit information.

spk_0:   5:05
This was written for Third World countries where there are no doctors many times.

spk_1:   5:09
Yeah, Village Healthcare Handbook. Kind of

spk_0:   5:12
Yeah, that's what she's gonna tell you all about. The book is I've read it, but it's been a while.

spk_1:   5:18
This was a guy who, uh I think he's a physician, but I'm not positive about that. He was definitely trained in the U. S. And he went to help provide medical care in, uh, Mexico Rural Mexico in the 19 seventies. And he was out in places where they are poor, where they are a long way from any hospital where they're a long way from any physician. And they had health care. People, of course, every communities got some people trying to help out others with their health care needs. But although there were perfectly intelligent people, they were not educated people, and some of the information they had access to is pretty darn terrible. Some remedies that communities come up with on their own without really applying scientific method to work wonderfully and some work terribly. And so these people had information of extremely spot equality. And this guy, David Warner, he saw a need to be able to disperse information to these people so that they're intelligent people and they were carrying people and they wanted to help and they could read. It was originally written in Spanish, but it's been translated into over 100 languages. I hear one of them being English. If they could read, then they could use this book even if they couldn't read. You could get a lot of information from looking at the little diagrams the guy wrote and put in there. He did a lot of little cartoons, sketches that are really actually quite helpful. And he put him in the book, too. And he wrote this book and started getting it dispersed throughout Mexico. And it went over so well and is so helpful to a lot of people that a ah organization that's interested in improving global health started publishing it in a whole bunch of different languages, making it available for free online and basically dispersing it as far and wide as possible to try and get it into his many hands that needed it.

spk_0:   7:28
Now we have the printed version of this book.

spk_1:   7:32
Yeah, because having a paper paper book is really nice.

spk_0:   7:36
Preferable to having ah, book that depends on electricity and not only that we wanted to support them.

spk_1:   7:43
And it's easier to flip through that way too.

spk_0:   7:46
But we wanted to support him because we we like what they're doing. Oh, yes. And you know the fact that they give this away from free and also the same people put out the book where there is no dentist, which we're not going to really talk about. Today we have, and it's a non valuable resource, and it's also available from the same place for free. I'm gonna put a link in the article that goes along with this podcast where you could get those. And also, while you're there, there's a bunch of other free medical community materials there that are available. Download? I highly recommend you just download all of it.

spk_1:   8:23
Yeah, there's ah, whether isn't a doctor for emergency home health care as well. I just saw that when I was making sure I had the right last name to this guy.

spk_0:   8:32
We're gonna put those links in with the are the beans, bullets, vantage and you website. So that will be there for you as a resource.

spk_1:   8:43
Needless to say, we're not getting any money from these people. don't. I don't know if they get any money from it at all. And if they do, it's just covering some of their publication and dispersement costs. So they're not buying any advertising

spk_0:   8:54
and we're not selling anything. You have no affiliate account. I

spk_1:   8:58
just really like this book. It is my favorite prepping book ever, and there's some good prepping books out there. But this is my favorite because it is so directly useful. It's not only based on very good, solid scientific information, but it is comes from an extremely practical point of view. And it does a very good job of translating the most necessary information into a way that is easy to grasp and easy to implement. So I like it a lie. Easy is

spk_0:   9:29
important when you are dealing with somebody in pain. We're doing to somebody in a desperate situation. You need easy. One of the things that always annoys me as a person is when people have emergency supplies like first aid stuff that's really difficult to get to, or you can't find it because it keeps moving around from one place to another. That's why we have one box. It's sitting right in a particular spot. We don't move it. It stays right in that spot. And that box, you pick it up, you pop it open and it takes you right to the stop bleeding stuff because that's your number one concern. When it comes to emergency, First aid is bleeding up something that you can easily fix

spk_1:   10:22
since we don't own an A e d at the moment,

spk_0:   10:25
right, So it's right there. And if I've got one hand all chopped up, I need to be able to do this all with one hand. So if you have a situation where you have, uh, you're gonna needing, be needing emergency, possibly meeting emergency help. But you don't have a resource to go to like a doctor. You need to keep this information easily findable and available so you can grab it in a hurry, not just buried in some bookshelf in some room somewhere.

spk_1:   11:01
And the rest of the book is that's not about emergency medicine. The health care provider would have time to flip through the book and find what they're looking for. But much of the systems information like, Oh, there's something wrong with this person's eye. So I'll go to the chapter on eyes and I'll start reading on that and it will help me figure out what's wrong. And then it will help me figure out what to do about it. So it's a good resource when you don't know exactly what it is you don't know. You just have a general idea of where you need to go on where the problem is. The book will help you take it from there and find what you need. And it's also got some extraordinarily useful information for preppers that I have not been able to find elsewhere in as easily digestible and compact. A format is easily usable a format because a lot of preppers have, say, antibiotics in stock. Sure, a lot in case our fish gets sick. Kids

spk_0:   12:08
are fish gets sick,

spk_1:   12:10
so a lot of people have those. But which antibiotic should you use? When should you use an antibiotic and when should you use something else? How much do you need to give? How long, of course, do you need to give? Um, if it's a wounded? Are any of these supposed to be put on the wounds you supposed to take him all by mouth, Or do you have to inject any of them?

spk_0:   12:31
And this is actually the antibiotic thing. This is something we're gonna come back to very quickly. It's this story. It's done right? The one that goes with this podcast. Yes. Okay, so I'm probably just gonna we get back home. I'm probably just gonna go and pop this in. We'll run this tonight. So? So I could say in the near future, if you hear this, you should expect to see a story on antibiotics as to when to use them. And when. Not you. It's not going to be a very big story.

spk_1:   12:59
No one's written too.

spk_0:   13:01
Okay, so we'll probably run that tomorrow. I know we were. Excuse me. I'm sorry. I know we've been talking about that. Yeah, eso We'll probably do a separate short podcast on that one as well. It's gonna be short,

spk_1:   13:13
but all of that information

spk_0:   13:14
is gonna be short too. So no,

spk_1:   13:17
it is really important. But it's not easily available. Health care providers have physicians have that kind of information. That's part of what they're taught in med school. And they have easy access references for that sort of thing, but your average person doesn't, and it makes a big difference which antibiotic you take and how much you take and for how long. And most companies do not want to publish that easily and clearly for the lay reader, because it's supposed to be a prescription only drug, and they don't want you using it without the physician doing the recommendations, so they just don't make the information easy to get.

spk_0:   13:56
I am not. I'm really I'm not gonna talk about politics. But I'm going to say I am not a person who likes government putting the brakes on things. I don't just not That's not my groove. I think pretty much freedom is a good thing. But having said that, antibiotics or something, you can really mess over not only yourself, but everybody else with. If you do not know what you're doing, that's the medics. Resistance is real.

spk_1:   14:25
It's a problem, and it's a problem for all of us because some of us have been sloppy with it. And

spk_0:   14:31
some of the doctors have been sloppy. Yes, some of the people have a lot of people haven't followed the directions. It's gonna be the death of us all one of these days, maybe literally people messing around and getting themselves good. An antibiotic resistant strains going. You know,

spk_1:   14:50
the outcomes for antibiotic use are much better in countries that have always had a physician control over prescribing, then in countries that don't have physician control over prescribing. So

spk_0:   15:04
I don't really wanna go too far in Yeah, that's that's not a political statement

spk_1:   15:08
that that is a factual statement.

spk_0:   15:10
Yeah, I'm not a I'm not really comfortable, but anyway, I just wanted to throw that out there, So yeah, the fish antibiotic thing, We all know what's going on with that. And if we don't want, there's lots of resource is where we don't really go too much into on three B. Why we haven't done the fish antibiotic thing very much.

spk_1:   15:28
Yeah, because not pharmacists losing antibiotics properly is such a big, hairy deal that I'm not one who is just going to say, Oh, everybody should keep some of these and use them when you got a problem. Because I I see so many problems when people, when they're not used correctly, that you may end up creating a bunch more problems than you solve. But

spk_0:   15:51
that's a little much doing. Yeah, probably another podcast, all that tomorrow. So

spk_1:   15:56
at any rate, this is a place where he will give you that information. He describes various conditions as he's going through the systems, and he tells you which particular antibiotics are most recommended. And if you can't get ahold of those here, some other things that also worked pretty well. Here's how much you should give based on the size and body way to the person hears are the ways in which you can administer it. It's a very direct, very straightforward. He concentrates on the drugs that are easiest to get because those are the ones that the people he wrote the book for our most likely to be able to get ahold of. So it's got a lot of very direct and useful information. It's also got a lot of very practical information, like Okay, you've got somebody who's got a nasty case of diarrhea with vomiting and they're getting all dehydrated. What do you give him to fix him up? Well, you give him an electrolyte solution. That's nice, but you can't exactly run down and pick up some Gatorade right now. Kenya? No. So here's what you do. You take your tea spoon and you take your container that has, you know, it's a one leader water jug that, uh, soda came in. Once upon a time, maybe you take your tea spoon and your salt container and your little box of baking soda or whatever. And he will tell you how to use those tools to do a pretty good job of mixing up the right solution. If it needs to be sterilised, he will tell you how you can sterilize it. If all you've got is an open fire, it's it's very direct and very useful. He'll tell you how to stabilize things and when you need to do your best to get somebody to a physician and when it is reasonable to try and treat them yourself. So he's not like, Oh, yeah, if you need to take out an appendix, you just know, because if you've never stuck your fingers inside a living mammals body, it's kind of confusing in there guys and watching a YouTube video auditing could get it done so he doesn't even bother to go there. It's just like, well, if it's this condition, they you really need medical care or you really need to support and hope for the best. Rather than trying to cut him open on your kitchen table, we'll try to give the instructions for that.

spk_0:   18:17
There was a reason that early surgeons were often the butchers because they were the people that were used to dealing with and cutting into warm mammals

spk_1:   18:34
and barbers. A lot of more barbers to Tosto least using really sharp knives.

spk_0:   18:39
Yeah, yeah, that shaved with a straight razor thing that still gives me the willies. And I'm not even talking about Oh, so you Johnny Depp movie? Uh, the Mad barber?

spk_1:   18:55
Yeah. Let's not go there.

spk_0:   18:56
Yeah, never watched it. No interested in anyway. Um, yeah. So it's an excellent resource. Excellent resource. Homework assignment. We're giving a homework assignment. Everybody is listening. This if you don't already own the book, I want you to at least download the book from the web site and read through it. Okay, at least do that. I know if you're listening to this, then you have a device that you could do this on.

spk_1:   19:29
And even if you don't wantto read through the whole thing. If you're not willing to commit that, there are chapters on what to look for on first aid on how to, um, check somebody out to see what the problem is. If you don't wanna handle every chapter on everybody system or you don't have any, uh, reproductive age women around and you don't want to read the chapter on that or you don't have any kids around and you don't want to read the chapter on paediatrics and right now, all right. But there are some basic informational chapters on there that are very useful for everybody. And there is a suggestion for medical kits.

spk_0:   20:09
Right? And that's a really kick off. Less interesting. Interesting part of listening to what really, really, really is important when there's not a doctor? No, I just had a really big disgusting, but died horribly. Yeah. Okay, now he's gone

spk_1:   20:31
there. There will be no doctor for him. Yes, there

spk_0:   20:33
will be no doctor, but I think I was lost. Okay. Um, are we good?

spk_1:   20:40
We're good. Where there is no doctor.

spk_0:   20:42
Next float on the next podcast. Bye.